New US Army unit to be formed

[nalioth]

WASHINGTON (SR) - President Barack Obama has directed the Pentagon to replace the "don't ask, don't tell" policy with one that will allow openly gay men and women to serve in the military.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, will present details of the plan to U.S. lawmakers next Tuesday. According to sources inside the Pentagon, changes to be implemented include adding choreography to marching regimens, equipping all dorms with double-wide bunks, new fitted uniforms in seasonal color palettes (mauve, salmon and puce), the installation of hot tubs, and more.
In a potentially controversial move, the Pentagon will announce the formation of a new all-gay, all male company tentatively named "69th Fighting Sodomites."
Sources credit the creation of the 69th to House member Barney Frank, who has reportedly been working "very, very closely" with gay Pentagon officials.

[fudo]

That would be funny if it wasn't plausible.

[warthog]

That would be funny if it wasn't plausible.

Plausible? I am guessing it is a true story. These guys would strike fear into all the fighting forces of the planet!
Imagine this, who would want to wound any of them? The risk of some deadly infective disease would be too much to bear.
The OP FOR would need to be in NBC Suits to be certain they didn't catch anything.

[nalioth]

It is pretty sad, when a joke so closely reflects reality that folks can't easily tell the difference . . .

[Ivan the Terrible]

[hunter_la5]

While I certainly find Nalioth's original post to be hilarious, I have to ask: am I really the only one here who is not upset by the decision to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"?

I certainly don't approve of homosexuality - I think it is a sin and God will judge gays accordingly when the time comes - but I don't see what's wrong with letting them serve and fight for their country if they want to. What they choose to do in the privacy of their bedrooms is none of my concern...

[warthog]

I agree, as long as the faggots can control themselves, I don't care. If they wish to serve, let them as long as they keep their hands to themselves. The real issue though is the blood supply Hunter. Say you are in the Armed Service and you have been wounded and you have a rare blood type and the hospital has none on hand. Without a transfusion, you will die. There happens to be a don't ask fag who because he has not been asked nor really tested, who has your blood type in your unit. He is it, you die without his blood. However, unknown to all is he is also a promiscuous little buggerer and has gotten a healthy does of HIV while on his last outing. It is a bit too new to show on the tests though and so you are now infected as well... So Sorry Hunter, he meant well.

[RC1947]

There have always been plenty of homosexual men in the military, professional sports... some quite obvious, most not. I don't believe that there is any difference regarding bravery, cowardice, willingness and ability to fight between gays and straights, and in my term in the army I served with a couple of gay men, yet I know of no, not one incident of any gays making a play for a fellow soldier. The HIV thing in lifesaving blood is not a concern, or if it is, it also applies to straight men as well, since "buggering" isn't the only way the disease is transmitted. For the believers among you, I suggest you practice trying to come to grips with the fact that if God made you, he also made everyone else, like it or not, murderers, thieves, molesting priests and scout leaders, prostitutes, torturers... you name it. Get a grip on the reality of humanity, or become another in the long line of ignorant bigots. RC

[warthog]

Each of us has a test in life to come to grips with RC, it is HOW one does it that he will be judged come his day.

[spareparts]

I'm more of a live and let live. I don't endorse or support homosexuality but I also feel that it's no my place to judge what takes place on someone's private property. I mostly try and just keep out of it.

But...Way I figure it we separate the men and women in the barracks for a reason. The gays would also have to be separated or trouble will brew and people will get hurt. This special treatment will cost us taxpayers alot of money and possibly deepen the hard feelings between gays and straights.

There is enough animosity that soldiers and sailors will die by "accidents" and I have no doubt whatsoever that this will happen. Either under enemy fire or during live fire training or while out at sea. Personally I think keeping it in the closet allows gays to serve without their lives threatened.

We had a highly decorated and well respected sergeant in my company that was court marshaled for a particularly unsavory homosexual act. All during the trial he and others involved in the trial spread the rumor that he was being busted for statutory with a concenting girl who was almost 18. That actually gained him some respect among certain circles. Once the verdict was read at and undisclosed time and location, and he found guilty he was very hastily removed from the base in an unmarked car because they knew that someone would killed him.

[warthog]

Understand, while I do not approve of homosexuality in anyway, I am not the judge nor do I feel I can judge the person who feels this is the way they must be. I do not think nor will I ever believe they have found a gene for this and until I can see someone who is not themselves gay prove to me they can raise some form of homosexual life based solely on the genetic make up of such and thing, then it will remain unproven to me. God makes no mistakes. People make the mistakes and chose in the life He gives them and from this we get our thieves, rapists and murders etc. God did not make them this way, they choose instead to be this way to spite Him who made them. You can comfort yourself as you feel I do with your form of dogma but in the end, only one of us will find ourselves to be right, only one of us will be speaking the Truth. I suppose only time and death will tell since you are not able to even open a Bible objectively and see the prophecy unfolding around you everyday as proof that God is in control.

That's OK though, I still like everyone here and in fact, as I said, I don't judge you at all, it's not my place.

[RC1947]

Dogma, as in doctrine? Well, I try to stay clear of that as best I can. All of us born the same, equal physical and intellectual capacities, all completely intact? Any gay man I've ever had the conversation with didn't like the fact of being gay, didn't choose that particular curse, and suffered spiritually, and inwardly; they live, for them, in a dangerous world of little tolerance, and they know it. I don't want to see or hear about homosexual details any more than I want to watch a guy screw a chicken, but I know it happens, and so long as no one gets hurt, forced into something they dislike, or displays their amours in public, I am neither threatened or offended; I have enough to do with my own failings that the sexual needs of other folks don't concern me. My fixed bulldog Snork occasionally humps the leg of men; should I hate him? have him put down because of his tendencies?

[warthog]

You, like most, have put words into my mouth and twist what I have said to suit you.

I see no reason to continue, I yield the field to you, the victor.

[RC1947]

Nope, no victor here. It's not, for me, a case of win or lose, but a spirited discussion of ideas in which I'm trying to establish some balance for those being condemned without a voice. RC

[NorseFalk]

I for one don't really understand the "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy.
Are people really so unsure of themselves that they wouldn't shower in the presence of a known gay?
I mean, chances are very high that you have allready showered with gays.
There have always been, and will always be gays, until the day when biologists can (and the parents will)
stop the feminization of the male brain while still in the womb.

As a biologist, thats the best guess to why someone is gay right now,
that the brain is not exposed to enough androgens while forming in the womb,
and this causes a feminization, making their sexual motivation towards males instead of females.
Homosexuality is not just known among humans, but is also praticed by several different animals.
However, the falling in love with a person with the same sex as your own, is as far as I know reserved for humans,
but so are the act of falling in love at all. (this is something hard to prove animals actually can feel)

To me personally, I really don't care much if anyone I know is gay,
or even if he tries to make a pass at me, as long as he can take a no for no and let it be with that.
If you serve in the armed forces here, there's no law against being openly gay,
but you cannot sexually harass anyone in your unit ofcourse.
That means be gay, but don't bother anyone else with it.
And this actually works well.
Its not like you have to put up with some pervert jacking off while he's next to you in the shower.

What God thinks about this, thats another discussion.
Me for one has a problem with accepting that God has made some people's brain hardwired to love,
(not only have sex with) people of the same gender, and deny them happyness.
On the other hand the Bible is quite clear; you shall kill gay people.
But as I have mentioned earlier, I like the gnostic teaching of Jesus better,
and most of them are not even in the bible.

I know I have showered in the gym while a gay person was there,
and as long as that person doesn't stare and glare at me,
why should I care?